Nov 21st, 2016, 02:01 AM
(incoming f*** off, mb replies)
Alright, as this involves me quite a bit (I was on ts with them the entire time) I'll put in my two cents.
The evidence you posted is pretty damning, granted you don't know what's going on from our perspective. So let me explain.
1. The live map provides an easy-to-use method that is great for:
a. raiding bases
b. finding structures (spawners included)
c. planning where to put nether portals in order to kill a random player.
2. The live map can easily be exploited;
After pigmine123 stalked serrian_ for about an hour while he was erratically going in circles on the live map. After pvping him, the method of finding spawners was born, dubbed, "The Serrian Technique." Although we are still dumbfounded how Serrian_ was able to perform this method by himself, we'll accept his explanation despite the obvious flaws. ( jet fuel can't melt steel beams? )
(At this location on the map, pigmine was stalking him while we watched on the live map.)
(Intentionally left out the co-ords because I want to hear Serrian's defense, then an admin can go check who broke the blocks)
![[Image: IA3PoLy.png]](http://i.imgur.com/IA3PoLy.png)
(in case link doesn't go: http://imgur.com/a/RM4Ip)
Anyway, here's how we do it. There are two parties involved: the spotter and the miner. The spotter follows along on the livemap-- and optionally, in person-- giving the miner instructions on where to direct their mining patterns. The sharp 4-8 block turns on the majority of those pictures are because pigmine123 encountered gravel and didn't have a shovel. We recreated this with Agro and Pigmine directing me where to find spawners, and I found 3 spawners in a 15 minute span -- much slower because my gear was aids. Here's a screenshot of one of them:
![[Image: 206cf685b0c24e31a34f1b52e833d07b.png]](http://image.prntscr.com/image/206cf685b0c24e31a34f1b52e833d07b.png)
Also, image link in case I fail with the imbed: http://prnt.sc/d9vfei.
We are able to do this using: f3 menu to locate entities, map to find elevation, mobs, and level of suspicious looking boxes in the ground, and, of course, the tears of our enemies.
While it definitely looks like x-ray, you can easily recreate it yourselves. If you don't believe us, try for yourself, it's pretty easy.
We did not find this to be an exploit because nowhere in the rules does it say, "don't exploit the live map," but we can understand if we are asked not to abuse this.
TL
R
If exploiting the live map like this is bannable, then we're taking Serrian_ down with us.
Alright, as this involves me quite a bit (I was on ts with them the entire time) I'll put in my two cents.
The evidence you posted is pretty damning, granted you don't know what's going on from our perspective. So let me explain.
1. The live map provides an easy-to-use method that is great for:
a. raiding bases
b. finding structures (spawners included)
c. planning where to put nether portals in order to kill a random player.
2. The live map can easily be exploited;
After pigmine123 stalked serrian_ for about an hour while he was erratically going in circles on the live map. After pvping him, the method of finding spawners was born, dubbed, "The Serrian Technique." Although we are still dumbfounded how Serrian_ was able to perform this method by himself, we'll accept his explanation despite the obvious flaws. ( jet fuel can't melt steel beams? )
(At this location on the map, pigmine was stalking him while we watched on the live map.)
(Intentionally left out the co-ords because I want to hear Serrian's defense, then an admin can go check who broke the blocks)
![[Image: IA3PoLy.png]](http://i.imgur.com/IA3PoLy.png)
(in case link doesn't go: http://imgur.com/a/RM4Ip)
Anyway, here's how we do it. There are two parties involved: the spotter and the miner. The spotter follows along on the livemap-- and optionally, in person-- giving the miner instructions on where to direct their mining patterns. The sharp 4-8 block turns on the majority of those pictures are because pigmine123 encountered gravel and didn't have a shovel. We recreated this with Agro and Pigmine directing me where to find spawners, and I found 3 spawners in a 15 minute span -- much slower because my gear was aids. Here's a screenshot of one of them:
![[Image: 206cf685b0c24e31a34f1b52e833d07b.png]](http://image.prntscr.com/image/206cf685b0c24e31a34f1b52e833d07b.png)
Also, image link in case I fail with the imbed: http://prnt.sc/d9vfei.
We are able to do this using: f3 menu to locate entities, map to find elevation, mobs, and level of suspicious looking boxes in the ground, and, of course, the tears of our enemies.
While it definitely looks like x-ray, you can easily recreate it yourselves. If you don't believe us, try for yourself, it's pretty easy.
We did not find this to be an exploit because nowhere in the rules does it say, "don't exploit the live map," but we can understand if we are asked not to abuse this.
TL
![Big Grin Big Grin](https://forums.cdgs.net/images/smilies/biggrin.png)
If exploiting the live map like this is bannable, then we're taking Serrian_ down with us.