Jun 25th, 2018, 10:03 PM
Boy I love having to decipher long text walls to figure out who's responsible for .0007669% of the server economy! /s
Before I actually resolve the issue let me start this off with saying that Moderators when not knowing how to respond to a situation shouldn't threaten a ban or any punishment. Particularly when I've had to comment on a similar report like this before. Bans/Mutes are to be used a punishment for set actions not for threats to get your way. This also goes for Miner making a threat to remove all of LiteViper's money.
Going further into the issue you guys argued a lot about common sense but when it came to your almost hour long argument none of you seemed to have any. It's natural for staff to have disagreements but arguing blatantly in general chat is incredibly immature. It should have been clear within a few messages that you were within a standstill and nothing would be done until an admin chimed in. Sometimes I think you guys like arguing/drama a bit too much.
If it wouldn't cause an even bigger shit show I'd demote the two of you (masterovie & LittleLea). masterovie for threatening to ban another staff member. LittleLea for having a track record of flame wars like this and valid mute against herself which historically been a 0 tolerance policy.
Moving forward to the actual issue.
Apparently I need to clarify on rules even more. Scamming on MCP is banned with things such as promising sales and not delivering. There are no rules against stealing whether it comes to intercepting a pickaxe or taking someones plot to the cleaners etc. Scamming enforcement is done on a case by case basis as there's a lot of variety to them.
For this issue it's the equivalent of IanUniacke throwing a pickaxe and LiteViperMC intercepting it. He'd have no responsibility to give the item back and so he has no responsibility to pay the money back.
While this may be unpopular this has always been my personal decision on the issue. MCP has a lot more player protection rules these days but not in this case.
Since masterovie had the right stance (despite liking to argue too much) it was right to stick up for a player who was being intimidated and ganged up on by staff members jumping the gun. You all took it too far though and should not result to attacking each other needlessly.
Take Away:
[size=0.7em]There may have been more things I should have covered with this post but it's late and I hate you all.[/size]
Before I actually resolve the issue let me start this off with saying that Moderators when not knowing how to respond to a situation shouldn't threaten a ban or any punishment. Particularly when I've had to comment on a similar report like this before. Bans/Mutes are to be used a punishment for set actions not for threats to get your way. This also goes for Miner making a threat to remove all of LiteViper's money.
Going further into the issue you guys argued a lot about common sense but when it came to your almost hour long argument none of you seemed to have any. It's natural for staff to have disagreements but arguing blatantly in general chat is incredibly immature. It should have been clear within a few messages that you were within a standstill and nothing would be done until an admin chimed in. Sometimes I think you guys like arguing/drama a bit too much.
If it wouldn't cause an even bigger shit show I'd demote the two of you (masterovie & LittleLea). masterovie for threatening to ban another staff member. LittleLea for having a track record of flame wars like this and valid mute against herself which historically been a 0 tolerance policy.
Moving forward to the actual issue.
Apparently I need to clarify on rules even more. Scamming on MCP is banned with things such as promising sales and not delivering. There are no rules against stealing whether it comes to intercepting a pickaxe or taking someones plot to the cleaners etc. Scamming enforcement is done on a case by case basis as there's a lot of variety to them.
For this issue it's the equivalent of IanUniacke throwing a pickaxe and LiteViperMC intercepting it. He'd have no responsibility to give the item back and so he has no responsibility to pay the money back.
While this may be unpopular this has always been my personal decision on the issue. MCP has a lot more player protection rules these days but not in this case.
Since masterovie had the right stance (despite liking to argue too much) it was right to stick up for a player who was being intimidated and ganged up on by staff members jumping the gun. You all took it too far though and should not result to attacking each other needlessly.
Take Away:
- Moderators jumping the gun on threatening an unsure punishment due to personal loss in a transaction is improper and shouldn't be done.
- Staff shouldn't argue in chat and players who chime in adding fuel to the fire need to shut up (you know who you are).
- LiteViperMC actually handled this better than you all despite ban threats. He mainly waited for the issue to be resolved.
- It sucks to be IanUniacke but $160,000 is not that much money to warrant a long argument like it did. Lea you have enough money it's practically a rounding error.
- As stated above stealing is not scamming and this was stealing.
- Apparently I need to clarify more things ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
[size=0.7em]There may have been more things I should have covered with this post but it's late and I hate you all.[/size]
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